Majeres' Musings

Jun 11, 2005 at 15:51 o\clock

Kates Blog called Small Dead Animals

by: majere

After going over some comments by Richard Evans over there, I am deciding to give Kate at SDA a week or so to keep out the trolling name callers and bashers.  I figure a week before I remove the link, but Kate of course has every Right to allow what ever comments she wants.   It was a marvelous site for Western views of the Conservative Party.  Below is a comment line from a article.  You be the Judge and Jury (to make it fit I left out other peoples comments, visit SDA for entire comment log).
What About the Victims?
Isn't this just lovely:

Reviled by many, defended by few, Canada's most notorious female inmate won't even be greeted by her family when she is released in less than a month. But CTV News has learned Karla Homolka does have some support in high places.

Homolka made her first public appearance in more than a decade last week at a court hearing in Joliette, Que. After two days of testimony, a Quebec judge imposed restrictions on Homolka's movements for a year after her release from prison.

Liberal Senator Michel Biron, 71, was present in the Joliette, Que. courthouse last week. He sat beside Homolka's lawyer during the hearing in a show of support for the convicted killer.

According to witnesses, Biron exchanged a slight smile with Homolka.

It's a shame that there were no Senators sitting with the French, Mahaffy, and Doe families to speak out in favour of protecting their constitutional rights. You know, the right to not be drugged, raped, sodomized, beaten, and then murdered. But I guess that's not as important as making sure that the people who do these things don't get their widdle feelings hurt.
Comment Section:
What about the victims? Do you suggest that they now recieve financial compensations on top of having the perp pay for their crimes? Or is it only if they don't recieve the punishment that you percieve they should have, that they should be further berated on top of, after their release? That this berating should take place as a lesson to those who do not yet know that what took place was illegal in the first place? Will this make the victims feel any better, a lawyer or someone hired to insult the ex-con upon their release?
Karla got a plea deal, its done all the time to nail bigger fish. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. To me its just a fact of life. And yes, she will end up found somewhere dead caused by some lower iq'ed socio-path looking for some noteriety. One socio/psycho-path killing another.
:) majerePosted by roger m roeder at June 10, 2005 01:10 PM

Roger did you even read the post? Sean was commenting on the fact that a liberal senator was standing in support of a convicted killer. There were no senators standing up for the victims at the impact hearings or when they were putting restrictions on Homolka.
It would appear that you feel that Homolka has done her time and as such, has redeemed herself. One has to wonder if you'd consider having her live next door to you...Posted by Richard Evans at June 10, 2005 01:40 PM

Hi Richard, yes I did read the entire post several times. I asked what do you want, some government appointed designate to sit with victims in all Court cases? The Senetors' choice of sitting with the Perp is his choice and I respect other peoples choices as long as its not in my backyard. As far as showing support for restrictions on Homolka, sorry, a plea deal is a plea deal which is a deal. Blame the Judiciary, not the government for not haveing some designate there to show support. If the government was serious, they would have reneged on the deal fought the Courts, disbarred the lawyers and kept her in prison. Also, I never said Karla is redeemed, only that she has upheld her end of the deal and now its time for us to uphold are end of the deal, right or wrong. As far as people being my neighbours, no-one can control that, so I stay out of their backyard, frontyard, livingroom, bedroom, garden and they stay out of mine. I also Sean, believe that Capital Punishment should be part of our Justice system for all socio/psycho-paths. I hope I have made myself a little clearer :) majerePosted by roger m roeder at June 10, 2005 02:51 PM

lol
MoonBats say: "Not in my backyard"
Conservatives say: "Not in any backyard"
MoonBats say: "financial compensation"
Conservatives say: "justice"
MoonBats say: "It's all ok, because they made a deal!"
Conservatives say: "BULLSHIT!"Posted by Richard Evans at June 10, 2005 03:05 PM

Well I am looking around the table and don't see any "moonbats" so it must be me.A few corrections, see if I get this right.The Conservatives do not say, "not in my backyard" or I would have cannabis growing there for my soverign use. As it stands now, they can come into my backyard after standing there stairing over my fence.I asked,"what do you want??? - financial compensation for all victims.Referring to the deal, I stated,"right or wrong" a deal is a deal.If a deal with the Judiciary which represents both the people and the government cannot be trusted, what do we have?Any clearer now? :) majerePS: is a moonbat a libertarian socialist conservative?
Posted by roger m roeder at June 10, 2005 03:18 PM

socialist and conservative are diametricly opposed...Moonbats are people who can't figure that out.Posted by Richard Evans at June 10, 2005 03:57 PM

Hi Richard, ref your moonbats. Then what is a Conservative - small governmentSocialist - social programsLibertarian - more individual soverigntyAdded up is a moonbat? A person who wants smaller government with same Canadiansocial services with more individual soverignty.Are you saying that a Conservative is against present Canadian social policies. Or do you mean, socialism such as Sweden. If I misslead you above, I am sorry, my socialism just includes present day Canadian social policies. I have read over the Conservatives Montreal Policy Convention and did not find where they are against present day social policies. :) majerePosted by roger m roeder at June 10, 2005 04:10 PM

Roger; You don't get it and that's amusing. You can't have a smaller government while maintaining the current programs. That's how they're diametricaly opposed.
Conservative = smaller government, proven structure, individual rights within said structure
socialist = big government, high taxes, no individual responsibility rather responsibility to the state, just plain wrong (my own opinion)
libertarian = generally equated with socialisim, no structure, relitivistic morality, (although the moonbats have tried to change it,)still associated with anarchy.
None of these things go with the other. Like I said, moonbats are people who can't figure that out.
Re Montreal policy: Policy isin't conservative. Was a centrist policy put forward in order to eek a few extra votes out of Ontari-ari-o... They sold out in order to appear to be mainstream (which in real terms means left leaning)Posted by Richard Evans at June 10, 2005 04:50 PM

ahh, so all the Harper Conservative talk about, "less government means dollar savings that can be passed on to the Provinces for social ills and lower taxes", is a Harper lie?That Harper and his supporters are confused?
That the "centralist" Policy Convention was/is just to hide this "hidden agenda" to fool Ontario?That no savings from a smaller government can/is to be passed on?
That the Conservatives are not for more individual Rights and therefore do not want to attract such libertarians looking for such?That this definition of Libertarian is wrong and you are right?
2 entries found for libertarian.
lib·er·tar·i·an Audio pronunciation of "libertarian" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lbr-târ-n)n.
1. One who advocates maximizing individual rights and minimizing the role of the state.
2. One who believes in free will.
That one cannot state they are socialistic with the strict meaning of maintaining ones present social structure with a small conservative government?
That all Conservatives are against present day social policies that Canada has now?
cheers :) majerePosted by roger m roeder at June 10, 2005 05:17 PM

As far as the policy goes: It's not a lie. It's completely legit. My point is that they sold out to the moderates... the truly conservative policies were left off the platform.Posted by Richard Evans at June 10, 2005 06:00 PM

Hello Richard; I am a Libertarian social conservative. I have values that fit my political desires from different pigeon holed terms as described above. If you chose to pigeon hole me further that is your right, but is wrong in describing me personally. The political terms I use describe me perfectly whether your mind can comprehend that or not. goodbye till next time sweetie. Now regarding Karla........ someone is giving her 12 months before she is done in, me I say 6 months. :) majerePosted by roger m roeder at June 10, 2005 06:10 PM

ike I said: diametricly opposed and moonbats don't get it... Posted by Richard Evans at June 10, 2005 06:40 PM

Apparently Richard is correct in definition only. His actuary brain might be good for following linear thinking and parroting but heaven help him if he has to expand his thoughts beyond strict narrow definitions and answere questions which he has not, as I put many to him, and since he cannot, he falls back onto his immature name calling within a narrow strict definition. His comprehension and expansion of comprehension is lacking to the point where I feel I am dealing with someone in grade nine who thinks they know everything because they can parrot a few definitions all the while calling people a made up name if they do not agree. Richard, did your imagine-fairy friend tell you the name "moonbat" or did you come up with it all on your own? :) majerePosted by roger m roeder at June 10, 2005 07:04 PM

Ahh Richard, your forgetting something. You first labeled me through lack of comprehension in individual diversity after you could not answere my questions. I only pointed that out, then mentioned your imaginary friend. I am sorry you cannot understand the multiplicities of politics. As far as moonbats go, guess who attacked first? Couple this with your simplistic reasoning and you acted like a cornered moonbat. Have a good evening :) majerePosted by roger m roeder at June 10, 2005 09:40 PM

Wow, I think tomorrow's going to be a moonbat outreach day. This individual needs to be studied further...Posted by Richard Evans at June 10, 2005 10:44 PM

Without knowing "roger m roeder"'s views, I would guess that he/she would be classified as a "centrist" by the above quiz, meaning that they have adopted bits and pieces of each of socialist/conservative/libertarian but as a whole each is watered down to such a degree that they can claim all three simultaneously (although "moderate" would probably be a better term).
And I don't think there are many libertarians that would describe themselves as "moral relativists" or "anarchists". "Moral relativism" is something invented by the Left for the purpose of maximizing collectivism. And "Anarchism" (contrary to common usage) is kind of a 'post-communism' kind of thing. While libertarians tend to be extreme individualists.Posted by etownie at June 11, 2005 11:08 AM

It's kind of like calling himself a korean/caucasian/negro...Posted by Richard Evans at June 11, 2005 11:37 AM


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